How good are you at loving yourself? What do you say to yourself when things don’t go your way, you mess up or you’re out of sorts? Chances are you may be overly critical and say negative things, to you, about you. This is a common experience for many and an opportunity to highlight where you need to do some healing.
Join us today as we move the conversation beyond the power of co-regulation to the art and practice of self-regulation. George and Laurie walk listeners through the concept of self-love, healing and soothing strategies to practice individually. Their expertise provides us with great examples on how to see, hear and validate ourselves all in an effort to create a more positive and connected relationship with YOU!
If you’ve been wanting to learn how you can be more compassionate, loving and understanding of your own experience you won’t want to miss this show. Share it with your partner, a friend or anyone you know could benefit from getting better at loving themselves!
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Laurie Watson [00:01:52]:
Children okay, as part of learning how you are with your partner, you also have to learn how you are with yourself and kind of those pieces inside that need to be healed that really will help you with managing your emotions better when you’re with your partner, right?
George Faller [00:02:08]:
G Absolutely.
Laurie Watson [00:02:11]:
Okay, let’s talk about it.
Laurie Watson [00:02:15]:
Welcome to Foreplay sex therapy. I’m Dr. Laurie Watson, your sex therapist.
George Faller [00:02:20]:
And I’m George Faller, your couples therapist.
Laurie Watson [00:02:22]:
We are here to talk about sex.
George Faller [00:02:24]:
Our mission is to help couples talk about sex in ways that incorporate their body, their mind and their hearts.
Laurie Watson [00:02:32]:
And we have a little bit of fun doing it right g Listen and.
George Faller [00:02:36]:
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Laurie Watson [00:02:38]:
Okay. We’re going to be in Arkansas. Arkansas. Eft.com Is that right?
George Faller [00:02:43]:
Yep. February 27th to 28th, training therapists. Show up, people therapist. This is the next evolution of psychotherapy here. In such a desperate need to focus on helping people strengthen their sexual and emotional bonds.
Laurie Watson [00:02:59]:
Absolutely. And we’re still doing October for another couples retreat.
George Faller [00:03:04]:
Yeah.
Laurie Watson [00:03:04]:
Okay.
George Faller [00:03:05]:
Well, I like this focus, Laurie, on We. We’re such champions of co regulation, really trying to get partners to give each other success because that’s the most efficient way of regulating emotion.
Laurie Watson [00:03:17]:
Right?
George Faller [00:03:17]:
Right. But it’s not the only way. Self regulation is also important. Some of us don’t have the greatest fortune of being with a great partner. Or maybe we don’t have a partner at all. So do we just quit, you know, if we can’t get CO regulation? I mean. No. Self regulation is super important.
Laurie Watson [00:03:33]:
Yeah. And it’s important, I think, along the way, when we’re working with a partner, even a good partner, to learn to understand our emotions, that that’s what we do all the time. Understanding our emotions and kind of learning about where they come from inside of us, you know, why we get so hooked in certain ways. And I think that that self regulation is part of maturing in partnership.
George Faller [00:03:59]:
Yeah. When the options aren’t great, when you’re in a negative cycle. Right. You are defensive against your partner, but you’re also defensive against yourself. Right. When you’re angry all the time and your partner keeps walking away, well, that anger is now going to go inward. Right. Or when you’re walking away all the time because you don’t want to feel things, then you got to hide yourself and not feel things.
George Faller [00:04:18]:
So, you know, we have to change how we do ourselves. Not only just how we do our relationship.
Laurie Watson [00:04:23]:
Yeah, we do. And I think there’s kind of two parts that I think about is healing the places inside that have been hurt, you know, from early on, and then also.
Laurie Watson [00:04:37]:
Maturing, exercising those muscles, you know, you know, keeping our mouth shut sometimes and saying these are inside thoughts, not outside thoughts. You know, it’s not something I want to say. I may be feeling it. It may be powerful, but I can, you know, time it better.
George Faller [00:04:56]:
Yeah. I think this is where a lot of listeners or clients don’t understand why therapists go to the past. They’re like, we don’t need. The past is done. Why are we going back there? We’re not going back there just for the sake of going back. Going back there. We’re going back there because the body doesn’t know, time. It’s never too late to add the missing ingredient.
George Faller [00:05:15]:
Right. It’s like if you didn’t get responded to, if you were left alone, if you hated yourself in that aloneness, like we can go back to that place and actually respond to yourself differently. And the neural pathways in your brain change. When you go back into the past and actually try to comfort yourself, the present changes. That’s the whole point of going to the past, is to change the present and then therefore the future.
Laurie Watson [00:05:38]:
Absolutely. I made George Faller watch this movie, this very long movie called Frequency. Frequency.
George Faller [00:05:47]:
That was a great movie.
Laurie Watson [00:05:48]:
It was a great movie. I loved it. But it was long. But it was all about that, Right. That this guy kind of starts out and he’s drab and he’s depressed and he doesn’t have good relationships. His girlfriend just broke up with him. And part of it was the trauma from his past. He loses his father, you know, and he has a good relationship with his mother.
Laurie Watson [00:06:10]:
But that central trauma. And then, you know, through the magic of the movie, he actually goes, you know, speaks to his father, heals all this. His father comes back to life and. And you kind of see the increasing color of the film. Even, you know, it just gets a little bit brighter, A little bit brighter through every part of the past that he changes. And I think that in essence, that is what happens. I love what you said, and I want you to say it again, right. That our heart stands outside of time.
Laurie Watson [00:06:40]:
Our body doesn’t know time. And so that’s why we’re not changing a memory, but we’re changing the way we feel about our memories. We’re changing the way we talk to ourselves about what happened. You know, we can’t make somebody not neglect us or we can’t make somebody give to us or not hurt us. But we can see that child. And as the adult self, we can feel differently about it. And that is powerful.
George Faller [00:07:10]:
Definitely. It’s.
Laurie Watson [00:07:11]:
Yeah.
George Faller [00:07:12]:
Again, it’s not catharsis. This is why most people don’t want to talk about the past. If you’re just going to replay the same tape and complain about what happened and nothing changes, your body feels the same negative feelings it felt in the past. But if the goal is to go back into the past, to introduce something new now into the past, your body has a different relationship with that memory.
Laurie Watson [00:07:33]:
Exactly. And I think it’s so powerful. I mean, to do this by yourself, to do it with a friend. Maybe your partner can listen to you when you talk about the past and things. And it does change stuff. Have you done this? I’ve done this. I’ve had good friends talk to me. I’ve had therapists, of course, talk to me.
Laurie Watson [00:07:55]:
And.
Laurie Watson [00:07:58]:
Rather than seeing just hurt, maybe I also see the victory of the child, you know, the way the child survived. I start to have more respect and pride in the fact that, you know, I survived some tough stuff.
George Faller [00:08:14]:
I don’t talk about my past.
Laurie Watson [00:08:21]:
I know you barely talk about your present. Are you kidding?
George Faller [00:08:26]:
I talk about other people’s past.
Laurie Watson [00:08:28]:
All right?
George Faller [00:08:28]:
That’s what I mean.
Laurie Watson [00:08:30]:
Oh, George, that was so good. That was such a good line.
George Faller [00:08:37]:
I do think all of us in human nature, we don’t recognize the cost of our own survival. That, you know, when people let us down to survive, that we have to do to ourselves exactly what other people have done. And that’s what makes these places so dark, right? It’s like, right if you know, my dad was abusive and I have to survive that, I have to hide those places inside myself. I’m not responding just like my dad. Never saw the fear and never help with the fear. And this is how this stuff gets passed down generation to generation. So this work is how you break some of these traumas.
Laurie Watson [00:09:11]:
Yeah, exactly. You said that I recently read that in some of your writing, right. If your dad says, boys don’t cry, you know, and you shut that sadness away, it’s like you are unresponded to when you feel sad. You don’t know what to do with that emotion. You don’t know how to get comfort. And of course it messes up your relationship because if your partner cries, it’s like you don’t know what to do with that either. And you’re likely to shut them off and shut them down. But I think the tragedy is being left alone with your own pain and don’t have any muscle memory at reaching out, receiving comfort from others and then feeling better and moving forward.
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George Faller [00:11:41]:
What I love about this is we don’t have to stay in the role of being a victim to this. Like we don’t. We’re not dependent on somebody having to come to our rescue. That is always going to be the most helpful part. Right. When we’re loved in places we don’t love ourselves, but we can change our own relationship to ourselves. That is something we can control. Right? So anybody listening to this podcast can find a time in their life where somebody has let them down and they probably don’t like themselves too much and they can go back into that scene and they could show up for themselves in a different way and you will feel the shift of that in your body.
Laurie Watson [00:12:14]:
And that is what we’re aiming for, right? Because the body can actually hold stress, hold trauma, and we free the body and we change the pathways, the neural pathways of how we’re reacting to present day when that’s changed.
George Faller [00:12:30]:
Body and body out. One of my favorite sayings. Yeah, body and where do you hold that trauma? Your body’s going to hold on to it. If you go back and you change the scene and you replace criticism with compassion, that you should get a shift in a body and that stuff should be released. Body out. Body and body out. Is the evidence as therapists we’re looking for of that shift.
Laurie Watson [00:12:50]:
Absolutely. And.
George Faller [00:12:51]:
And not just guessing what we’re not just guessing here. Right I mean, that’s the cool thing.
Laurie Watson [00:12:57]:
About guessing here, right? The body holds the score. And we can, we can help. You can help. I mean, our listeners, you can help yourself in this way to care about yourself, to care about the parts that were injured. I mean, sometimes I hear people tell stories, right, about, you know, having been maybe misunderstood by significant others. And they’re up against this helpless situation, you know, where the person maybe in charge or whatever didn’t get it. And, you know, as a young person, they’re subject to that and they’re hurt, they’re wounded, and they don’t know what to do about it. But as a grown adult, they can look at that child and say, hey, I get you.
Laurie Watson [00:13:48]:
I actually do know your good motives. I remember your good motives.
George Faller [00:13:52]:
Nice.
Laurie Watson [00:13:53]:
You know, and they can heal that with their own sort of adult self saying, no, you were good. You know, you were a good, good person. You were doing. You had a. Maybe you were between a rock and a hard place, but you made a tough choice. And, you know, we can look at that and say it was probably the most responsible choice. But everybody around you didn’t see that. They didn’t see your dilemma.
Laurie Watson [00:14:14]:
I think so many people have those kinds of misunderstandings and they’re left unvalidated. Nobody saw me, nobody understood me. But, you know, they’re protesting still, right? It’s like, you know, up against the whole world, nobody will understand me. But there’s a piece inside that does know why they did the thing that they did, you know, and that can be very healing.
Laurie Watson [00:14:40]:
I had somebody talk to me about this, and as a kid, he had been in private school and, you know, it was a big deal and there were lots of strict rules. And one of the rules was you needed to wear a collared shirt. And he had come to school in a T shirt. And after school he had had to go to work. And there were adults that were waiting on him to fulfill his role. And the principal said, you know, go home, change your shirt. But the choice was, do I go home, but I’m going to be late to work, where everybody’s depending on me and do this, or do I just go through the rest of my day in this T shirt and face the consequences? And then he was double caught again and gotten in trouble. Like, you know, you didn’t do what you were supposed to do.
Laurie Watson [00:15:29]:
You’re going to be suspended. You disobeyed me, you know, and it was like he was a kid. He didn’t say, well, this was my dilemma. If I ran home. I was going to be late for work. I knew that I’d never make it back for this other thing that I needed to do. And it was so sensible. And when we reviewed it and talked about it, we saw that the boy actually made the best choice possible for him.
Laurie Watson [00:15:55]:
And it did change something. It kind of unwound something for him. It’s like the first time somebody believed him and it wasn’t just me. It was like he could see it for himself.
George Faller [00:16:06]:
What a nice thing to hear what he needed all these years later. So let’s come back and let’s get into an example of it.
Laurie Watson [00:16:14]:
Okay?
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Laurie Watson [00:18:15]:
Okay, what are we gonna do here? G. How are we gonna show this?
George Faller [00:18:18]:
Well, let’s. Let’s just try to give a little. A little structure so people can practice this at home. You’ve heard us talk about using the acronym tempo because we’re always trying to slow the tempo down if we’re going to get people to dance differently or come up with new moves so.
Laurie Watson [00:18:33]:
So they can get closer. How bluesy?
George Faller [00:18:36]:
So I was bluesy dancing. I like it. Laurie loves to dance. We had some good dancing in Nashville.
Laurie Watson [00:18:42]:
We did.
George Faller [00:18:43]:
I think I want to. Let’s go over tempo. So T is just. What. What is the trigger that sets off your defenses? You know, somebody criticizes you. Your dad, you know, walked away on you. There’s always something that your body says, oh, oh, here it is. Right.
George Faller [00:18:57]:
There’s the threat response. E is where the emotion. What do you feel out in your body when that person criticized you or walked away from you? Whatever the hurtful thing did, what do you feel out of your body? M is the meaning. How did you make sense of that? What did you think about that? A lot of times this is like, it’s my fault. It’s because I’m failing. I’m lazy.
Laurie Watson [00:19:16]:
Yeah. And I mean, what you’re describing. Right. Is the incident that triggers us and then our emotional response, which is in three parts. The emotion we feel, what we feel in our body and what we tell ourselves. The meaning that we make up about it, which is usually not terribly helpful. Helpful. It’s not like, oh, everybody has the best of intentions.
Laurie Watson [00:19:36]:
It’s more like, you know, everybody is against me.
George Faller [00:19:39]:
Yeah. And what’s wrong with me? And it’s my fault.
Laurie Watson [00:19:42]:
And. Right. Yeah. How we feel about ourselves. Absolutely.
George Faller [00:19:46]:
And then the P is the protection. What do we do? It happens so fast. You know, this is usually where we get angry. We put up walls. We, you know, we shut down, we freeze, we dissociate. This is just our body’s attempt to survive the threat.
Laurie Watson [00:19:58]:
Yeah.
George Faller [00:19:59]:
And O is really the outcome of that. It happens so fast. Most people don’t sit and think about what’s. What’s, what’s the cost. And it’s, it’s usually that, that threat, that need is never addressed. Right. If you’re scared, if you’re threatened, you needed help, that that’s the solution to this problem. And when you protect yourself by going away, get angry, you never get the solution.
George Faller [00:20:21]:
So we’re going to go over a story and you imagine being this person and we role play it. But like you got to be able to actually comfort that part of yourself because that’s the missing ingredient. That’s what’s going to allow your body to discharge this.
Laurie Watson [00:20:34]:
Okay, good. So I was person who’s here.
George Faller [00:20:38]:
I was similar. Right. Working with a girl who had ADHD and was, had a difficult time sitting in school. And you know, she was super sensitive but she, you know, she had lots of, you know, distractions because she was interested in so many things. And then she started getting the feedback that she was challenging because she couldn’t focus like the other kids. And you know, she felt really sensitive but alone because nobody really understood her world. So you know, that loneliness was really at the core of where she needed help. But she didn’t have put words to it.
George Faller [00:21:12]:
Her parents didn’t really see it, so they tried to get her help and they sent her out to, you know, experts who put her on medication and pathologized and labeled her. And then she started to feel like, what’s wrong with me? So she then tried to self medicate herself and then she turned towards drugs to kind of escape the loneliness. Then she got labeled as a drug addict at 16 years old. She’s, you know, needing go into groups saying I’m a drug addict. And like that’s became a whole identity being a drug addict. And like, so she’s been going down this road where at the core this, this lonely little sensitive girl who had all these ideas and energy, nobody saw it. And she learned to hate herself because all the messages the world gave.
Laurie Watson [00:21:55]:
Right, exactly. And it, of course you would. Right, yeah. You know, because that’s what you’re hearing. You’re bad and yeah, I get it.
George Faller [00:22:05]:
So again, maybe we could play with this. Laurie of how do we invite you, the adult you who’s trying to do this work to go back in time. Right. To sit next to that girl in the bed, you know, and to actually see her pain instead of just try to fix her.
Laurie Watson [00:22:45]:
Yeah. Or feel frustrated by her.
George Faller [00:22:49]:
Yeah.
Laurie Watson [00:22:50]:
Like to get into. To get into her world, like what she was going through.
George Faller [00:22:55]:
Yeah. And nobody sees her efforts or her sensitivity or a fear. All we see is her shortcomings, her failures and frustrations. Right. So notice again how she has to survive. She has to really be negative to herself. She learns to despise herself, to try to motivate, you know? Don’t do it again. You got to stop being such a bad kid.
George Faller [00:23:18]:
Stop being such a bad kid. How many times you think she said that to herself?
Laurie Watson [00:23:22]:
Exactly. Hundreds? Thousands. I’m a bad kid. Right.
George Faller [00:23:28]:
And how is that bad? Telling yourself you’re bad going to help with that loneliness.
George Faller [00:23:33]:
Then you don’t even feel entitled to the love. Whenever it infrequently comes your way, you’re going to push it away.
Laurie Watson [00:23:41]:
So there’s nobody could love this. Right. If I’m so bad.
George Faller [00:23:45]:
Exactly.
Laurie Watson [00:23:46]:
And it makes sense now that I’m not getting the love because I’m so bad.
George Faller [00:23:51]:
So I think even that first piece of going back and giving that little girl permission that, you know, this sucks. This is scary. Nobody would do well in this place. This isn’t her truth. The way the world is seeing her. She was set up for this. Right. If things would have been different, she probably would have went down a very different road.
George Faller [00:24:11]:
She wasn’t born a drug addict. She was born somebody who had a different way of kind of being. And nobody knew how to relate to that.
Laurie Watson [00:24:17]:
She had a slightly different brain.
George Faller [00:24:20]:
Yeah.
Laurie Watson [00:24:20]:
And nobody worked positively with it.
George Faller [00:24:25]:
So wouldn’t that be nice for her to hear from somebody? I’m sorry. I’m sorry. We didn’t have the tools to know what to do with you. And it set you down this road that made you really hate yourself. I’m so sorry for that.
Laurie Watson [00:24:38]:
Yeah. So sorry.
Laurie Watson [00:24:42]:
You want me to say that like I’m her.
George Faller [00:24:45]:
Yeah. I mean, I guess that that would be some of the work. And you go back into that bedroom where she’s crying and she’s banging her head, you know? And normally you’d get frustrated and tell her to stop doing that, too, like everybody does. What would it be like for the adult, you saying, I get it. I get how frustrating this is. And nobody sees this. And, you know, it’s not your fault. No.
George Faller [00:25:05]:
It’s. People let you down. It taught you how to be down on yourself, too. But you’re not a bad girl. You’re doing the best you can. You got a lot of gifts that nobody’s gonna see, but I see it.
Laurie Watson [00:25:16]:
Right.
George Faller [00:25:17]:
You want to try that?
Laurie Watson [00:25:19]:
Sure. I will try that. You know, I kind of see her alone, beating herself up.
Laurie Watson [00:25:29]:
You know, I kind of feel that tender mother part of me, like, wanting so much to hug her, to hold her, to say, cry with me. It’s. It is so bad. It is so lonely. You have been misunderstood. It’s not fair. It’s not fair that you’re so alone in this and nobody’s really helping you with the root cause, and then you just react to that, and of course, you’re. You know.
Laurie Watson [00:25:57]:
Yeah, okay, Laurie. You know, you started down this path, but then nobody’s helping with you with that. They’re just saying you’re bad. I don’t think you’re a bad kid.
Laurie Watson [00:26:07]:
I think there’s some things that are different. Yes. And you didn’t get the help you needed, but that doesn’t mean you’re a bad kid.
George Faller [00:26:15]:
Yeah.
Laurie Watson [00:26:15]:
Yeah.
George Faller [00:26:17]:
A pretty resilient kid.
Laurie Watson [00:26:19]:
Pretty resilient kid, right? You. You’re gonna survive this.
George Faller [00:26:25]:
You’re a fighter. Okay? A lot of times people misinterpreted your fight, which is to not stay in this place as you began being difficult when that was just your body mobilizing to fight back.
Laurie Watson [00:26:38]:
Yeah.
George Faller [00:26:38]:
Well, what happens if that little girl can’t trust it? Right? Because nobody ever does this. Nobody ever sees her. She’s always alone here, so she’s not sure what to do. She’s a bit.
Laurie Watson [00:26:47]:
Pulling away. She’s pulling away. Can’t. Can’t take in my hug. Can’t take in my desire for that to comfort her. Because, of course, she doesn’t trust it. Right.
George Faller [00:26:58]:
But what a gift.
George Faller [00:27:00]:
What a gift to tell her it’s okay, to not trust it. How could you possibly trust her? You’re not doing anything wrong. You’ve been let down.
Laurie Watson [00:27:07]:
Yeah. Nothing. It makes so much sense that you wouldn’t trust what I’m saying. You haven’t seen this part. You haven’t seen the future. You haven’t seen who you become. I have. You know, you grew up.
Laurie Watson [00:27:22]:
You’re so creative and. And you’re so good on the inside and so caring. And those things. I know those things about you. And it’s okay that nobody’s telling you, you know this right now. And so you don’t trust me saying it. That I get that.
George Faller [00:27:41]:
Yeah, you know, but I’ll say here, telling that little girl it’s not okay. Well, you’re going to keep coming. You haven’t known how to fight for her either, and now that you do, you’re going to keep coming, right?
Laurie Watson [00:27:53]:
We’re going to do this together. We’re going to step out of this. It’s okay. I’m going to come back to you and help you little bit by little bit. We’ll figure this out together. You don’t have to trust me the first time because I’m here. I’m here for you, with you.
George Faller [00:28:12]:
How does she hear that?
Laurie Watson [00:28:15]:
She’s looking at me out of the corner of her eye.
George Faller [00:28:17]:
All right.
Laurie Watson [00:28:18]:
Okay. You know, we’ll see if you come back kind of, but. But maybe interested.
George Faller [00:28:23]:
All right. There’s a longing that starts bubbling up. Yeah, right. Which is pretty cool, right? They want a gift. To give yourself permission for mistrust instead of everybody hating that in you that it makes so much sense. You’re not being difficult at all. It’s what any nervous system does when it finally gets a little tast. Something it has always wanted but never has gotten.
Laurie Watson [00:28:45]:
Right.
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Exactly. Cool.
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George Faller [00:29:50]:
All right, well, let’s pull out of it. Nice job, Laurie.
Laurie Watson [00:29:53]:
Yeah, you know, I do stand in both places. I mean, this is as always, when we role play, there’s little bits of truth, right? And, you know, the fighter little girl, you know, is so familiar to me, and it’s actually the part that pulls her out of it, you know, even though sometimes it goes in the wrong direction and it’s, you know, it’s scattered shot in the beginning when you’re a kid because you just don’t know how to focus it. But eventually, right, the focus comes and it pulls her out of it. And I think that, you know, seeing her with her hurt, the loneliness.
Laurie Watson [00:30:34]:
The self evaluation of, I’m bad, I do bad things. I’m no good, you know, when actually it really started from a place of just not being understood and not getting that help. And then, you know, her parents, probably frustrated, didn’t have the tools, didn’t know what to do. They’re using anger and force to, you know, get through to her and. And that’s making it worse.
George Faller [00:31:00]:
And. Yeah, well, that’s the beauty of the imagination. Right. We can go back in time and, you know, maybe you talk to the little girl, or maybe you talk to your parents who kind of didn’t respond to you, and maybe you talk to the person who abused you or created trauma within you, or maybe you talk to God or maybe you talk to parts of yourself. There’s a lot of creative ways that we can actually bring. Go back into the past and bring in a new outcome. Right. We do have more control over our inner world than a lot of us realize, you know, and we should take that control.
George Faller [00:31:36]:
And if we can replace some of the criticism and the avoidance with compassion and love and engagement, we will have a very different outcome.
Laurie Watson [00:31:45]:
And we want to be careful because sometimes, you know, sometimes parents do grow up and they change, too, and they are open for those conversations. But sometimes. Sometimes it’s either futile or they’re not safe or they’re kind of maybe too old to change. And, you know, certainly with somebody that abused you, unless they’ve done significant work, we don’t want you to resubmit and be vulnerable with somebody that won’t get it. Can’t get it.
George Faller [00:32:14]:
Exactly. That’s the nice thing about imagination. We could turn our parents into healthier versions than they might be in real life.
Laurie Watson [00:32:21]:
Right? Exactly. Exactly.
George Faller [00:32:23]:
So, well, hopefully this is, again, a start, another tool for people to just kind of love better on themselves. The world’s a safer place when we do.
Laurie Watson [00:32:34]:
Yeah.
George Faller [00:32:35]:
So thanks for listening.
Laurie Watson [00:32:37]:
Keep it hot, y’. All.
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